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For All I Care: Episode 4

Episode 4: Earthly Perspectives

De-centering the human

What can we learn from the acts of care and reciprocity we can see in plants, animals and minerals?

In Earthly Perspectives, we try to de-centre the human, listen closely and take a different view of the natural world.

The guests are artist Rachel Pimm, writer and academic Merlin Sheldrake, and artists Jana Winderen and Patricia Domínguez.

In this episode, artist Rachel Pimm talks to biologist and author Merlin Sheldrake. Rachel’s work sees the world from the perspective of non-human beings or elements and is fascinated by the acts of care and reciprocity we can see in plants, animals and minerals. Merlin, author of Entangled Life: How Fungi Make Our Worlds, Change Our Minds and Shape Our Futures has been studying fungi for many years.

They discuss the acts of care and reciprocity we can see in plants, animals and minerals, if it’s possible to get into the ‘mind’ of an organism or a plant and what the living and non-living can teach us.

Immerse yourself in a deep, focussed listening experience with artist Jana Winderen. Jana has been working for the last 15 years with underwater sound and those made by creatures that make sounds inaudible to humans, like bats, rats, fish, echolocation of dolphins; bringing attention to ecosystems and to issues that need focus.

Chilean artist Patricia Domínguez uses healing practices in her work, bringing to light hidden ancestral knowledges, to examine the way that humans relate to and often exploit plants, animals and minerals. Join Patricia for meditations that explore our interconnectedness with the world we inhabit through quartz frequencies and try to connect with our perception of the invisible through the eye of a blinded toucan.

A BALTIC Centre for Contemporary Art and Wellcome Collection collaboration. Presented by Nwando Ebizie. Music by Nkisi. Sound by Axel Kacoutié. A Reduced Listening Production, produced by Georgia and exec produced by Alannah Chance.

Merlin Sheldrake, Entangled Life: How Fungi Make Our Worlds, Change Our Minds and Shape Our Futures is published by Vintage.

Patricia Domínguez is making a new commission with Wellcome Collection for the upcoming exhibition Rooted Beings in 2022, in partnership with Delfina Foundation.

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Episode 4 Show Notes

  • Explore the hidden depths of the oceans and ice crevasses with sound by Jana Winderen here that reveals the complexity and strangeness of the unseen world.

  • Follow Patricia Dominguez on a personal journey through conflicts connected to the issue of water in Latin America in this interactive publication GaiaGuardianxs. Emerging from three years of research, it examines the complex flows of water in terms of the possibilities for crying, the environmental crisis, and spirituality in the digital era.

  • There are billions of worms in the Gurdon Institute’s Eric Misca lab at University of Cambridge. Read Rachel Pimm’s blog here about their research at the institute in collaboration with Kettles Yard, University of Cambridge.

  • Inspired by Entangled Life by Merlin Sheldrake a couture collection by Iris van Herpen explores ‘the miraculous lacer of interconnectedness from the natural 'wood wide web', weaving a dialogue between the terrestrial and the underworld.’

  • Patricia Domínguez’s commission will be part of Rooted Beings at La Casa Encendida in Madrid, Spain from May 2021. The exhibition responds to the current environmental crisis that is exposing the vital - but fragile - entanglements between human and planetary health. The show also features work by Eduardo Navarro and Ingela Ihrman.


Merlin Sheldrake is a biologist and Sunday Times bestselling author of Entangled Life: How Fungi Make Our Worlds, Change Our Minds, and Shape Our Futures. He received a Ph.D. in tropical ecology from Cambridge University for his work on underground fungal networks in tropical forests in Panama, where he was a predoctoral research fellow of the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute. Merlin’s is a keen brewer and fermenter, and is fascinated by the relationships that arise between humans and more-than-human organisms. Find out more at

Rachel Pimm (Harare, 1984, lives London) is a research based artist working across sculpture, video, sound and performance. Pimm’s material stories of plants, minerals, and their histories and politics follow the potential of surfaces and matter to transform. Recent UK presentations include The Serpentine Galleries (2019) Whitechapel Gallery (2018) Chisenhale Gallery (2015) Royal Academy (2016) and Hales Gallery (2017). Residencies include Writer in Residence at Whitechapel Gallery (2019) Chemical Engineering at RADAR, Loughborough University (2019) Genetics at Cambridge University (2018) Wysing (2018) Rabbit Island, MI, USA (2017) and Hospitalfield, Scotland (2016). Pimm is currently artist in residence with The White House, Dagenham and lectures in Fine Art at Camberwell College. Forthcoming projects include a commission with Arts Catalyst.

Jana Winderen is an artist who currently lives and works in Norway. Her practice pays particular attention to audio environments and to creatures which are hard for humans to access, both physically and aurally – deep under water, inside ice or in frequency ranges inaudible to the human ear. Her activities include site-specific and spatial audio installations and concerts, which have been exhibited and performed internationally in major institutions and public spaces. Recent work includes The Art of Listening: Underwater for Audemar Piguet at Art Basel, Miami, Rising Tide at Kunstnernes Hus in Oslo, Listening with Carp for Now is the Time in Wuzhen, Through the Bones for Thailand Art Biennale in Krabi, bára for TBA21_Academy, Spring Bloom in the Marginal Ice Zone for Sonic Acts and Ultrafield for MoMA, New York. In 2011 she won the Golden Nica at Ars Electronica for Digital Musics & Sound Art. She releases her audio-visual work on Touch (UK). Find out more at

Patricia Domínguez (b. 1984, Santiago, Chile) is director of the ethnobotanical platform Studio Vegetalista. Bringing together experimental research on ethnobotany, healing practices, and the corporatization of wellbeing, her work focuses on how neoliberalism perpetuates colonial practices of extraction and exploitation. Recent solo exhibitions include Madre Drone, CentroCentro, Madrid, and Cosmic Tears, Yeh Art Gallery, New York (both 2020); Green Irises, Gasworks, London (2019); Llanto Cósmico, Twin Gallery, Madrid (2018); soñé@cerá, Sala de Arte CCU Santiago (2017); Eres un Princeso, Pizzuti Collection, Columbus, Ohio; Los ojos serán lo último en pixelarse, Galería Patricia Ready, Santiago; and Focus Latinoamérica, ARCOMadrid, Madrid (all 2016). She has recently been the recipient of the SIMETRIA prize from Corporación Chilena de Video y Artes Electrónicas to participate in a residency at CERN, Switzerland (2021), among others. Her work has appeared in Younger than Jesus: Artist Directory (New Museum/Phaidon Press, 2009); and Health (MIT Press/Whitechapel: Documents of Contemporary Art, 2020).